OPINION: Labour Pain, UKIP Gain?

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  1. MIKE MAUNDER says:

    Exactly correct Darrell. At this time of a large membership of the Labour Party, it can be seen that only those who are bright enough to understand political changes are taking real action. Labour once was an alternative political view, but I think the majority of their membership today, would admit to simply being against the Conservatives. Not much positive Party thought, just the negative of against the Tory Government, and that is a pity !

  2. Grumpyashell says:

    What people want is hope for a better life for themselves and their families….Corbyn offers nothing that has not been tried before and failed. May offers the status quo…political inertia,Cable is in cloud cuckoo land so there is an open door which needs pushing ajar to show the possibilities that can come from breaking the system

  3. Jake Bennett says:

    The one thing that underpins the three party system of Lib/Lab/Con is that there are are well paid political careers to be had. Yes, you can put bread on the table, pay the mortgage, drive a nice car and a pension to boot in the aforementioned parties.

    We must, must break through that Westminster ceiling and create political career opportunities for our talented youth supporters. Once we have broken through, success will breed success.

  4. Matthew Goodwin says:

    Why not be prepared to reject the notion of ‘class’ when it is not an accurate description of people’s economic situation or how most people identify themselves.

    A blue-collar, ‘working class’ electrician makes more money than a White-collar, ‘middle class’ teacher.

    People self identity where they are from but they somewhat reject being told “you’re working class” when many of them see themselves as middle class or do not identify themselves in that way as well.

    “Margaret Thatcher spoke to the hopes and dreams of working-class voters up and down the country and so must we and we must turn away from a secretive, quasi-Masonic system of governance.”

    Not really. Thatcher was forced out due to her unpopularity. She resonated with blue-collar individuals, in a way similar to Powell, due to her (empty) ‘swamping’ dog whistle in 1978 and workers not having to take orders from communist union barons. Thus her ‘popularity’ was more due to circumstances and perceived stance on mass immigration.

    With actual analysis the whole cult of personality around Margaret Thatcher, which many social conservatives take, is in fact hollow.
    1) Mass immigration under Thatcher was at the same levels as under Callaghan
    2) Released government records show Thatcher’s government approached the Argentinians in 1980 about starting the process of handing over the Falklands
    3) The privatisation of utilities, power stations and MOD housing stock was done on the cheap and has not benefited tax payers as central government still subsidised these to the tune of billions a year as private businesses do not look to invest
    4) The memory of Thatcher has made many blue-collar individuals continue to vote for Labour for the sole reason to “keep the Tories out” rather than investing their vote into UKIP. In many areas all Labour have to do is call UKIP ‘purple Tories’ and that keeps people away. Thus in the here and now the legacy of Thatcher is a deteriment.

    Thatcher’s ‘appeal’ is all nolstagia and there’s no point UKIP being associated with it because the Tories can easily make the majoirty of gains from Thatcherism as she was a prime minister for that party.

    • Jake Bennett says:

      Well said. Better to stick to the terms high, middle and lower when relating to economical groupings.

      Mrs Thatcher rewarded high and middle income groups at the expense of lower income groups just as successive governments have done vis a vis globalisation.
      We must not fall into the trap of being seen to attempt to style UKIP along the lines of Mrs T. Let the Tories play that card we have more principle than that bunch of scoundrels.

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