EXCLUSIVE: Lord Pearson Blasts “Headless Chickens” Running British Government
Former UKIP leader Lord Malcolm Pearson of Rannoch hit out at the “headless chickens and lemmings” in the British government, in a wide-ranging exclusive interview with Kipper Central, discussing Brexit, Islam and the future of UKIP.
Lord Pearson, who led UKIP between November 2009 and September 2010 – including the 2010 general election, has led the political debate surrounding Islam in the past by saying that we are “right to fear” those who promote fundamentalist Islam, as well as by pointing out that the murder of Fusilier Lee Rigby was inspired by the Quran, citing “the violence in the Qur’an – and indeed in the life and the example of Muhammad”.
Speaking in the first part of his exclusive interview with Kipper Central – published yesterday, Lord Pearson revealed his take on the Nigel Farage vs Gerard Batten UKIP feud, saying: “I love Nigel like a brother, but I think he is wrong about Gerard”.
In this second half of the interview, Lord Pearson discussed where the government are going so wrong on Brexit, the problems Britain faces with Islam, and how the future should bode for UKIP, the party he once led into a General Election.
“In a nutshell,” he told Kipper Central, “I see UKIP as the best chance of stopping Corbyn winning the next General Election. At the moment, the Conservative Party and the political establishment are in such a muddle that this looks a real possibility.”
“If UKIP, which I think at the moment is on 8% in the polls, can build itself up further then come a General Election I would hope a lot of votes that might otherwise go to Labour will come to UKIP, and thus help to stop Corbyn’s socialism. That I think is the main aim – it is certainly why I support UKIP and Gerard.”
Later discussing the infamous Brexit negotiations, “What I’ve been saying in the Lords is that we ought to simply resile from clauses 2-5 of article 50 and tell the Commission we’re not going to go on dealing with them, we’ll deal through the Council, offer the people of Europe continuing residence and free trade – both of which are hugely to their advantage more than ours. We will go on offering them security through five eyes and GCHQ, and when they’ve agreed that, we’ll tell them how much money we’ll give them, which will be nothing if they don’t agree! That’s the way to do this deal, and any businessman will tell you that.
“It’s just that we’ve got headless chickens and lemmings in charge of this process; they haven’t a clue. Of course, the civil service don’t want to leave the EU anyway – they don’t want to lose their jamborees to Brussels and all the rest of it and I’m afraid the Prime Minister is out of her depth, poor darling!”
On the 9th December, thousands of patriots are set to march through London against Theresa May’s ‘Brexit Betrayal’ in a march organised by UKIP’s Batten and Tommy Robinson, an event which has caused a major controversy after Farage described those attending as “skinheads” and “thugs”.
Lord Pearson, however, has a totally different view of the protestors, telling Kipper Central: “It’s the only thing they’ve got at their disposal – if you look at both Islam and Brexit, the two are linked in that they both suffer from an establishment cover-up and incompetence. If you look at the grooming gang phenomenon, there is a determination not to even talk about Islam; I come up against that in the Lords all the time. The Brexit incompetence speaks for itself; the two are connected and they are both vital to our future, our free speech and our culture.”
Going on to explain the importance of the march’s effects transferring into political action, Lord Pearson continued: “If I speak on the 9th December, I will make the point that street action and marches are all very well, but the political establishment in Westminster doesn’t actually listen to them much. The only thing that really moves the political establishment is votes and the prospect of losing their seats. That’s the only thing that moves the political landscape.”
“If I speak at the march, it’ll be to ask people to join UKIP, get their friends to join UKIP and work as hard as they can to make sure UKIP goes up beyond 8%. By the time of the next General Election, if you look at the marginal seats, UKIP will be in a strong position to make a big difference to the result, because a lot of Corbyn’s Labour vote will go to UKIP, and never to the Conservatives. That’s really why I support it, because in the end, it’s votes that count. Quite often, you’re sitting in the gilded palace of Westminster and you really haven’t much of a clue what the marches outside are about. So I believe they are less effective, but if this march can contribute to building up UKIP then it’s absolutely worth doing for that alone.”
Carrying on from the discussion on Tommy Robinson and his work on Islam published in the first part of this interview, Lord Pearson described how it is crucial to include our “peaceful Muslim friends” in the fight against literalist Islam, saying: “This is not Muslim-bashing; it’s the only way we’re going to solve the growing problem with Islam, where I think in 13 years’ time a dozen or so of our local authorities including Birmingham are going to be Muslim-majority. I just want to talk about all of that; I want a discussion about Islam and I want, as is beginning to happen, our Muslim friends to join in; because we can only do it if we do it in conjunction with our Muslim friends who don’t believe in the Islam which is the most violent force on the planet.”
“I want to talk about the Muslim tenet of abrogation for instance whereby the later verses of the Quran, the verses of the sword, cancel the earlier peaceful verses. I’m not an Islamic scholar, I don’t know if that’s true or not but I think we ought to talk about it with a view to getting our peaceful Muslim friends to deny it and to outlaw it. There are a number of other Muslim tenets which, if they hold, are very worrying for the future relationship between Muslims in this country and the rest of us.”
Before finishing up, Lord Pearson briefly touched upon the most crucial democratic reforms that he wants to see in Britain, arguing in favour of proportional representation to more fairly represent the people. He told Kipper Central: “One of the other huge problems with our democracy, of course, is the First-Past-the-Post system of election to the commons, whereby only 24% of the electorate decides who shall form the government. It would be great if UKIP got strong enough to insist on a change to some form of proportional representation.”
You can read the first part of Kipper Central‘s exclusive interview with Lord Pearson here, in which Lord Pearson revealed his take on the Gerard vs Nigel debate and outlined his thoughts on Gerard’s vision of UKIP.
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